Hey Mickey-
Congrats to the Liar and his convict wife...

Just like Bernie Madoff wife, Tierney plays dumb.

I used to live in Massachusetts, and I know how idiotic the voters there are--they keep voting in the same slimy, paid off criminals year after year. I hope you enjoy all the higher taxes, higher unemployment, higher energy costs, inflation and misery coming everyone's way now that you dumb democrats have reelected an inept, progressive, socialist liberal president hell bent on making "everyone paying their fair share" (this applies especially to the middle class) for a second term along with a lying, Occupy supporter (Warren), and what amounts to a crimnal (Tierney). Great job, idiots!

Good News ??
Nasty ads ? Are you freaking kidding me ??
The man is a liar and his wife is a convicted criminal.
Whatever happened to morals ?
You and the rest of your bunch that are sending him back to DC just because he is a democrat should be ashamed of yourselves ...

Do i see u in that Tierney party pic? Looked like a wild time.

Your views are not shared by a majority of voters in the 6th district.
To make assumptions about people who don't agree with you is foolish.
Calling people names is not productive.

You must be a sad and lonely man Bill. This is how our system works, we vote, then the winners lead. I am not disgusted by your vote at all b/c I think that each vote is as important as the other. We didn't pass on a good man, we returned a good man to Congress to continue HIS stellar career working for US! And I assure you Bill, I am not a sucker. I see how the wealthy have pillaged and plundered this country to the point the middle class' piece of the pie has shrunk to where there is just nothing left for us. No, I don't want a welfare state, and I don't want a state where the rich just keep taking more and more from the middle class. Your arguments are just wrong, you are the poster child for Faux News, you should stay there. We are the most wealthy and prosperous nation this planet has ever seen, there should be plenty to go around. There shouldn't be homelessness, or people w/o healthcare, or people w/o jobs. We are better than this and today we continue to help level the playing field for all.

Bill, will all your name calling and spouting of outrageous lies you just made the point of why Obama, Warren and Tierney were elected. The majority of us want to solve the problems, not be the problem. You Bill are part of the problem, wake up and help your country, your state and your fellow citizens fix the problems that we all face. The election is over, there is no more need for lying of name calling, now it's time to go to work.

Hey Bill,
Humiliated to live here? It's called DEMOCRACY ! Please try a new country.

This is exactly what is wrong with the Republicant's - their pure, unabashed hatred of views different from theirs. Where is their moderation? Where is the "where in this together and we have to find common ground?" As long as people like Bill are around - Republicans will keep in getting creamed. Look at Ohio, Virginia, Florida - what has all that vitrolic hatred gotten them - let me answer in three words - "President Barack Obama": !!!

Spot On!
Dont forget the free Obama phones.

respectfully a 53 percenter

Then move. I hear the red states are thriving. Lots of folks just like you there.

...."continue his good work" ??? The guy has NEVER, sponsored a bill that has become law, NOT EVER the only work he has done has been shielding the family crime sindicate

...."The majority of us want to solve the problems".., are you kidding me?? Go Ahead I dare you name the last great piece of Democrat compromise legislation....... Can't can you Democrats don't compromise and its not rewarded by the party, the leadership and most importantly its donors

Go Ahead bask in the glory, the vote is over and we now once again have a congressional delegation that reflects the people of MA; gigaloos, crooks, palgerists, racists whom deny minoritys their rightful chance to get pluch jobs, and oh happy day 'Camalot' is back!!

Enjoy the party now, but when all the rhetoric fades and your annointed ones turn on you; becasue they will, they have no other option it would be nice if there was no whinning.

Sour grapes, Maybe ; but its abonmdantly clear that Feelings trump Facts not only in MA but increasingly so nationwide, and thats never good policy no matter what side your on.

Lets just all settle in to the new normal of having:

20% of the laborforce on the sidelines so what; the "Unemployment Rate" will start coming down as soon as they fall off the map

$4-6 heating oil this winter - you bet ya?

$5 Gas - has been a stated goal since the 2008 campaign

Seniors get used to that 1.2% COLA even though Gas, Energy, Rent and Food are through the roof

Yeah Team !!

@Greenwood-1
You are jst stating lies, Tierney's record is easily checked via wikipedia. Here is a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Tierney#Tenure

You talk about whether we can name a Democrate that can compromise, I think you should first be asking why a total of 539 Republican incumbent lawmakers and candidates have signed the Grover Norquist Americans for Tax Reform pledge how does that work out when it is time to compromise? I understand the roads, police, fire services, EMT services, curbstones, etc etc etc cost money, the government gets money via taxes, how can you sign a no tax pledge during an economic crisis like this. It doesn't who got us into this mess anymore we either have to fail and go broke or fix things which will probably me less services and more taxes. I don't like it, I don't think it's fair that we have to pay out for the mistakes of unregulated industries but this is the hand we've been dealt, we either play to win or get up from the table. To me this means we pull together, pay a little more, fix what we can, and pull ourselves out of this mess. As another great Massachusetts Democrat once said "And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

I think this is a time were it is important for all of us to remember those words and bring them into action.

You're so mad.

@Daniel

Facts are not "Lies" just because so one told you they were. Hey about checking for youself, its late now, but better late than never.

rather than sometihing written by someone's PR staff (or do you not know how wikepedia works) try some real refference material link http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=400407#_

Johny Aces has Sponsorded 66 Bills + 1 Simple Resolution during his entire tenure, of these 67; 66 have been "reffered to" or "died in" committee only 1 has actually Passed the house but has yet to be taken up by the Senate

H.R. 1339: To designate the City of Salem, Massachusetts, as the Birthplace of the National Guard of the United States.

Yeah Johny; Great Job since 1994, how did you find the time.

RE: Grover - First of all pledging to any self agradising loon is a bad idea, but both sides have their power brokers to please.

That being said lets get back to the facts its not a "no tax pledge" its not even a no new tax pladge; its a pledge to not increase the marginal rate directly or via elimianting deductions on everyone

BTW: your beloved Saint Jack lowered the marginal tax rates on everyone and the treasury generated tons more revenue due to ecomic expansion.

Works every time its tried, Historically speaking.

Saying you can tax your way out of a recession is like Clinton saying he balanced the budget - OK if you don't take into account you took every plug out of SSI to do it I guess you can say that.

Kennedy & Frank.

Hi George:

Just so we are all on the same page what "false"charge was made?

The masses have spoken, to the victor go the spoils regardless but I'm just curious?

So true....
I guess it's all about the paaaaahty....

amen

Your proud of a LIAR and his criminal of a wife.
Shame on you too, Justin

Whitey Bulger could win a local race with a D next to his.

So sad.. But true.
Can you believe he had to run TV spots that said" A judge said I was found Not Guilty"
And people still voted for this Liar.

Last night? If we haven't learned that long before last night there is something wrong with all of us. You can drown a woman and get re-elected multiple times if you sport the right letter.

@David - Let's a see a Judge determined that Tierney wasn’t involved in any way shape or form. He then stated this fact in a television ad. The judge made an official legal ruling and the accused notified the public of this ruling. I'm still trying to find out the Lie, do you have insider information that the Judge, The DA and the Commonwealth does not have? If so I urge you to report it and back it up with evidence. And finally as someone who grew up on the South Boston/Dorchester border I can tell you that Whitey Bulger would never have been elected no matter the party. That's why he had a brother, who did, get your facts straight. For someone who is so fast and loose with the truth and facts you shouldn't be chastising anyone else about their morals.

@Mike Goodwin - Democrats feel the same way about Republicans so let's stop the with all the suffering talk, you're an American, your party lost but you are still an American so let's focus on that and realize NONE of us got the exact results we wanted and all we can do now is work to solve the problems that affect us all.

C'mon Daniel. The election is over. You can stop. The judge said no such thing. Tierney saying that the judge said that doesn't make it true.

@KlassySalem - that was a quote from the Globe, the Judge said those words and while the context of that statement is in question the fact that John Tierney wasn't tried and convicted should be enough for everyone to stop with the accusations.

“Let me say it back to you because I’m not sure I understand it,” Young says to Assistant US Attorney Fred M. Wyshak Jr. “You’re saying that because she’s married to a congressman, who is not implicated in this in any way, shape, or form, but simply because of that marriage . . . that warrants probation where someone not in the news at all would get some jail time? That can’t be the argument.”

Really? You're telling me that statement is the judge affirming that Tierney wasn't involved? At that point, I'll tell you that the judge said that "that can't be the argument."

Not implicated, and not involved aren't close to the same thing, either.

Lemmings? Scott Brown and Mitt Romney both won here in Tewksbury.

It is time for the House ethics committee (firmly in Republican control) to investigate how he nor his wife ever paid taxes on the 235K she was paid by her brothers. I know Dems don't feel they have to pay taxes, but it sounds like a felony to me.

All they have are lies and negativity. I feel bad for these people. Someone on Tisei's side told me that Tisei being called unethical by a judge was okay because being unethical in a real estate deal wasn't illegal. Yet Tierney is told by a judge that he had nothing to do with his wife's case and he is somehow corrupt?? They just don't use logic.

I totally agree Justin, I believe all this negative attack oriented clamor is drowns out the people that want to discuss what happens next, what can we do to start fixing the problems. At least that is why I am here, I want to know what my neighbors are thinking and how we can come together to work on solving issues even if it means each side will have to compromise a little. Running for office is a great idea, Bill if you feel so strongly and you know you have the backing of like minded citizens I definitely encourage you to run. As the saying goes, I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it. But we need to say things rather than name call, we need to stay with facts over opinions and we need to have civil discourse no matter what party the other commenter is from. People can disagree without resorting to personal attacks, crudity, rudeness or violent speech. I want to hear what you have to say but when you lie, spin the truth to your liking and resort to insults I lose interest in understanding your position and find myself concentrating on pleading for civil discourse. Please just think about what I have to say.

Hey Justin-
Guess What...
If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck than it's probably a duck.
running for his 9 th term he wins by 1 %.
Gee, I wonder why the race was so close.
Too bad he isn't going into the private dreaded sector where he belongs.
Can anybody say "term limits" ?

I have no idea what you're rambling about but it's usually easier to leave a comment if you get your thoughts in order first, then write them down. It makes it easier for us to assume that you may be making a coherent argument based on fact rather than a jumbled rant ending in an non sequitur.

Tisei didn't earn my vote. I'm a fiscal conservative. Tisei and the Republicans left fiscal conservatism in the dust back in the Reagan years. If Fishman wasn't running, both Tisei's and Tierney's ovals would have been left unfilled just like they were for Warren and Brown on my ballot this year. Tisei never owned my vote. Therefore, he didn't lose it.

Leonard, I'd say not so much mad as frustrated and in awe.

We all get lied to by politicians. Would Romney have been a big-picture conservative centerist like Regan; or a Quasi conservative allowing unbridled spending to get a few 'signature' pieces of legislation like GWB? The world will never know.

In general the thing that conservatives will probably never understand about liberals/progressives is that your candidates will lie right to your face, not deliver on anything and then come right back with the same promises, and people swallow it all over again.

It just doesn't make any sense to us.

Obama, Warren, Tierney; all had their true selves on display, but we as people choose to simply look the other way, hoping that they would do what they said this time with total dis-regard for past thier actions.

We had true centrist representative in Scott Brown and through him to the curb, for what ?? Just another short-timer pension seeking seat warmer for Harry Reid

We are in awe of the ability wag the dog into believing there is some immeadiate danger to womens rights or access to birth control. It is impressive, but like any magic show it requires a willing audience.

Comprise and effective governance require an informed electorate that holds its representative accountable for their actions and results.

Until we as a people are willing to do so we will continue to be brazenly lied to, and the country further polarized.

Bingo. From the speaker on down they scare the living crap out of me.

Why Dave?

Do you really think Republicans want dirty air and polluted water? Do you really believe they just can't wait to push granny off the cliff? Do you think they want to mandate all women must be bare foot and pregnant?

I know you've been told all of this is true, but what part has stuck? Can you describe your fear, or is it raw fear for no particular reason?

Let's remember

I was trying to offer an explanation of why Tisei and Brown managed to lose against extremely weak competition. Their association with the national party and its increasingly extreme positions on a host of issues was undoubtedly a factor.

Ahh I see, unfortunately locally this was simply bad timing. without the presidental election year machine running its likely but Tesei and Brown would have won, but its was unfortunately a sheer numbers game at this point in MA.

Nationally, the results are both more perplexing and troubling long-term.

I'd like to blame morons like Todd Akin (MO), and Richard Murdock (IN) and surley their stupidity and inability to answer the same canned got-ya question that every Pro-Life candidate has recieved for the 25 years didn't help.

I'd like to blame Sandy for bumping Mitt off the national stage right when his momentum was taking off with perfect timing only a week or so to go; (maybe Obama ordered the guys at the NSA to crank up the same Huricane machine Bush used to destroy New Orleans, Yeah tats It!!!)

I'd like to blame Chris Cristi for being so despite and overwhelmed with the condition of his state that he handed Obama a picture perfect photo-up a few days away; but cut the guy a break he too wanted soo much to believe the promise that Obama would help his people out.

I'd like to blame them, but in the end this came down to decades of coillition building, gerrymandering, class warfare and refining the "get out the vote" machine we now have a large enough collition of thiose seeking a new aristocracy + dependant voters, that know they can simply vote themselves someone elses stuff.

And who doesn't love free stuff; but what happens when there's no more stuff??

Yep, pretty much sums it up right there, no doesn't it.

When character doesn't count who cares. The fulfillment of decades of "free" thinking

From the creators of other great societal initiatives like
"everyone gets a trophy"
"grades ruin self esteem"
"how do you feel about that"

And everyone's favorite

"TO BIG TO FAIL"

Thank God for gridlock.

Becky-
The problem with this country is "People like you"
Why the "F" do think she only got 30 days.

Wake Up !!!!

Becky, you don't get it ! I play the devils advocate, really ? I am a democrat and have mobilized all of my republican friends to vote for Barrack, Liz and John ! Guess you never caught on ?

Anne-
And what does your comments have to do with Tierney the criminal ?
Why does this Tierney issue have to be a Republican Vs. Dem.
Does it really matter if OJ was a Dem. or a Rep. ?
A murderer is a murderer....
and a liar is a liar no matter what their affiliation is..

yep. Brainwashed into cowardness.....

Ron Paul, certainly had his forum no didn't he. The fact that he a Nevel Chamberlin style isolationist whack-a-doodle in an age of international commerace and ecomonmic inter-dependancies has nothing to do with why he could not garner enough voter support to be relavent no does it?

Hey ... up in the sky.... isn't that the Mother Ship???

Greenwood, you don't know the difference between non-interventionism and isolationism? I wouldn't be insulting anybody else's intelligence.

Why Yes, Anne I do, and you should be please many of its core components are being implamented by the current administration.

The US has no friends or enemys
(We are certianily working that way; at least on the Friends side of things now aren't we)

The US shall never go to war with or send tropps into other nation unless attacked first
(Great idea in the Nuclear & Terrorist Age, this also really helps with #1 above)

The US shall Never attempt to infuence the domestic policies or actions of another nation in any way including via trade, military or dipolmatic policy (excuse me Mr. Hitler we really really don't think that whole master plan thing is a good idea... I can't emphasize this enou......... well of course we are not going to stop selling you tanks)

The US should talk to every other nation e.g. Unenforcable Diplomancy,
(Hey Mr. Taliban, Daylight come and me want go Home)

One might say that a "Nevel Chamberlin style isolationist" is a non-interventionalist.

Others might say that its a difference without a distinction since the Protectists policy included in the modern/Paul context of "isolationism" would be largely prevented under the non-interventionalist philosophy

BTW I said nothing about your intellegence, very very intelligent people can be easly dupped, they make bad choices, or suffer from mis- or incomplete information every day.

You only have to go back to Tuesday for evidence of that, and on thyat I bet all sides agree !!

Sorry Anne; My bad I got so confushed with the I typed the worng name

"The US shall Never attempt to infuence the domestic policies or actions of another nation in any way including via trade, military or dipolmatic policy"

"The US should talk to every other nation e.g. Unenforcable Diplomancy,"

That's quite the contradiction. But regardless, it's obvious you do not understand non-interventionism because what you just described was isolationism. Non-interventionists believe in open trade, diplomacy, etc. You know, that crazy concept our founding fathers came up with. If you think meddling in other's affairs when it isn't welcome is going to create more friends, well, I can't help you there. We do that now with Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, etc. We started it with Iran in 1953. How's that working out?

Actually Bredan, Isolationism in modern parlance; especialy in the Paul definition is Non-Interventionalism + Protectionism (which he describes as building walls around the country that restrict trade or immagration)

Military Interventions that he describes as not part of direct self defense, similar to The countries you mention are straight up Non-interventionalism.

You obviously are intellegent and passionate about your belief, but like many have failed to consider that suck a obvious philosphy might have a fundamental flaw.

Altough its taughted as free trade and Open Dipomoacy without any threat of miltary action unless you attack us (Laissez-faire foriegn policy if you will); what you fail to consider is that requires both parties participating equally in good faith.

When Sanctions, embargos, tariffs & even military intervention or the threat of witholding it are off the table what are you engaging in Dipolmacy with ???

Your "open" Dipolomacy has no teeth, what happens when the other party decides to play by different rules.

Wether you like it or not the fact is Man in general is NOT ALTRUISTIC.

What happens when your 'family' has something my 'family' needs like food or water, energy, or say natural resources???

What if we had a non-interventionalist policy in 1940, everyone knew that so long as they did not attack us directly we would not enter the war?

How would the the world be different under your policies?

Would it be better?

"Actually Bredan, Isolationism in modern parlance; especialy in the Paul definition is Non-Interventionalism + Protectionism (which he describes as building walls around the country that restrict trade or immagration)"

I apologize if I'm misreading this, but are you saying that Paul advocates Protectionism?

Nope

Ron Paul to the best of my knoweledge officially only supports Non-Intervenalism which he distingishes from Isolationism as lacking the "Protectionist" trade, border, or travel policies

He and most other Non-Interventionalist" do however hold firm to principle of no military actions ("Interventions") that are not a direct self defense resposnse, so no mutal defense Alliances or in for that matter Treaties of any kind with other nation states as they ingherently impact the free and open flow of trade and diplomancy with either that stat or others.

I suppose if you want to spilt hairs

Isolationism = Non-Intervention + Protectionism

Ah, OK. I was gonna say, Paul was the only one during the GOP primary not advocating for border fences for fear of the unintended consequence of isolating us. Glad we cleared that up.

"He and most other Non-Interventionalist" do however hold firm to principle of no military actions ("Interventions") that are not a direct self defense resposnse, so no mutal defense Alliances or in for that matter Treaties of any kind with other nation states"

He stole that idea from Tommy Jefferson "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." Of course, Jefferson had to deal with the Barbary pirates, but at least he got Congressional approval and it wasn't a unilateral action.

Anyway, I'll guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Otherwise, I think we'll just be going in circles.

And then Monroe came along and really muched up the works.

If you arguing for Congressional approval on te use of force, we are on the same page, but regardless of if we feel they were a good or bad idea I think we can agree that just as Jefferson all of these recieved not only additional approval from congress, but ongoing approval in the form of additional appropriations from congress under both Dem's and Rep's

The world is tangled intermingled mutttle of passions and policies and power players at all levels, now more than ever and often times that does require intervention on some level.

Now thats not to say I don't favor secure borders and controled legal immagration

And leaving aside the effectiveness of a fence for a secound, its probably not fair to say it only creates an isolated nation.

The balancing act that is the great experiment can almost always be boiled done to Individual Freedom vs. Collective Good.

Too much individual freedom is anarchy and and not a society, too much central planning for the collective good and well we've seen where that goes.

The passions are inflammed because everyone recognizes we've lost our path, we just can't agree on which fork in the road.

Thank you kind Sir, you are like a poet with the way you write your words. Thanks again for being an adult and admiring the fact that we all have an opinion, after all, we live in America. By the way, the election is over, Tierney won......so I guess more people agree with me than you.

Once again Sir, Tierney won. That means that more people agree with me, than you. Thanks for being such an adult and putting words in a mouth of someone you have never met.

No, just the people who voted a felon back into office.

Technically not true....counting Fishman, 192,621 votes were cast against Tierney compared with 179,603 votes for Tierney. So that means almost 52% of voters in this district voted against him. Some mandate...

Sir, was anything PROVEN about his involvement? Was there anything PROVEN about voter fraud? Nothing like a witch hunt. this is America, I love it, I also love that you can not just make an accusation and all of a sudden it is true. What if I said that you were a thief and had the police arrest you? Would you like this? Would you not want proof? I am right in everything that I have said, it is you sir that needs a lesson in civil rights. Have a pleasant day.....I have a backroom card game to attend to.

I have to defend Justin on this one:

As a conservative i am all too familar with being called a "hater", "imtolerant", or far worse even on this thread.

Justin doen't hate his country, he might hate its founding principles; he might think is country is systemically 'unfair' or uncaring, he might have a diferent vison of how America should look in the future and think the constituional amendment process is an antiquated concept, afterall it requires consensus.

He might well truely believe in that his parties leadership is so pure that the idea of committing voter fraud would never enter their mind.

He may not know that George Soros' little old lady ad telling people we should "burn this %*&$er down" if those evil republicans tried their "voter supression" stuff, was actually an order to ramp it up.

He may never had read old Sol's book and know that before actually doing anything that might come back to bite you; first accuse your opponent of doing exactly what your going to do, so if caught you just claim its payback/tit for tat.

Now can I prove there was voter fraud on Tuesday?? Nope
Would I make a really big bet that it occurred.... OH YEAH
Will we ever know??? Nope

Justins right.
Tierney was relected under the system we have in place.

So for now Tierney is technically not the co-conspiritor his brother-in-law on the lamb says he is.

He's only one of the most clueless individuals on the planet, and his my REP... YEAH!

Thanks Justin et. al.

The rules are far from perfect, I am just saying that they are being followed. If you have a better way of getting things done...........run for office. I am def done now with this thread. Much too much hate here for me to deal with. I am pleasant person......who runs backdoor cards games. Good night

Hahahaha....you seem to think you know a lot about me. Yet, you stand behind a posting name of "FantasyIslandMaiTai". My friend, you know little about me. Please share with us your name as I have no problem posting under mine. I will say, I am here posting under personal feeling and not about any business I may or may not operate. I'll be hosting a backroom card game at my home on the wharf tonight, please feel free to come by and have a civil conversation. Bring the pepsi!